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  Walking away will get you D/Fed

  by Drifting Away in

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  someone just told my wife, that those who are just leaving organization or not going anymore will be dfed, has anyone read that or heard of that?

  i have seen nothing of that, and according to jackson at royal commission, we are free to go as we please...

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  Many J.W.'s unilaterally treat inactive J.W.'s as if they are disfellowshipped.

  It's a rapidly growing mindset amongst those dedicated to the org Jehovah.
  
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  December 28, 2016 BOE Re: One Study Edition of The Watchtower in Languages Other Than English

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  december 28, 2016 to all congregations re: one study edition of the watchtower in languages other than english.

  dear brothers:.

  for several years, the simplified edition of the watchtower has been produced in french,.

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  w12 12/15 p. 29 The Simplified Watchtower—Why Introduced? "For decades, men and women around the globe have appreciated and benefited from the Bible-based information published in the pages of The Watchtower. In July　2011, the first issue of a simplified study edition of this magazine was published in the English language. That issue explained: "This new edition will be tried for one year, and if it is helpful, it will continue to be printed." Now, it is a pleasure to announce that we have decided to continue to publish it. Moreover, in time a simplified edition in French, Portuguese, and Spanish will be available......It is filling a need and will continue to be published....."
  Faithful slave speaks with forked-tongue kemo sabe! :)
  
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  I am glad to have found the true religion

  by A Believer in

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  2. friends

  it really is great.

  i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

  i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

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  @ A Believer - scripturally debunk my debunking of these J.W. teachings.

  Please don't try to give explanations based on JW anecdotes & buzzwords - just use the Bible.

  Better still, simply ask any of your potential elders to help you - and then come back and tell us how they reacted.
  

  1) Why does the WTBTS say that the "evil things" spoken of at John 5:29 will be practiced during Christ's 1000 years reign?
  (it-2 p. 789; re chap. 41 p. 300 par. 16; rs p. 338par. 1; bh p. 214 par. 3; uw chap. 9 p. 76 par. 12; w82 4/1 p. 25 par. 18 w78 9/1 p. 22 par. 9)
  
  2) Why does the WTBTS say that the tribulations of Rev. 7:14 & Matt. 24:21 are one and the same?
  The great tribulation spoken of at Revelation 7:14 cannot possibly be the same one Jesus spoke of at Matthew 24:21 - for two obvious reasons:
  a) The great tribulation which is spoken of at Revelation 7:14 is contextually a clear reference to the same great tribulation mentioned five chapters previously at Revelation 2:22 - a tribulation which Christ himself would instigate against those who were corrupting the congregations. The angel was describing a future
  tribulation. He was not discussing one which had already occurred almost 30 years previously.
  b) Regarding the great tribulation at Matthew 24:21, Jesus said "....no, nor will occur again".

  How can something which was never to be repeated, have another fulfillment in the future?
  
  3) Why does the WTBTS say that Rom. 6:7 is literal?
  Watchtower May 15th 1982, pp. 8,9 - "The Bible explains that at death a person is set free or released from any sins he committed."
  The surrounding verses - 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, & 11 - clearly prove that the context is figurative!
  
  4) Why does the WTBTS say that the Catholic church's practice of voluntarily confessing to one priest is unscriptural, when Jehovah's Witnesses are compelled to confess their serious sins to three elders?
  Matthew 18:15-17 says nothing about elders being involved when someone commits a serious sin.
  
  5) Why does the WTBTS say that elders can talk with disfellowshipped ones about spiritual things, but publishers can't? (wt 15 4/15 p. 31) Don't God's laws apply equally to everyone?
  
  6) Why does the WTBTS say that a "governing body" resolved the circumcision issue?
  bt chap. 13 p. 103 - "....the first-century governing body settled the circumcision issue..."
  Gal. 2:1-7 shows that Paul was used to resolve the issue, and was directed by a revelation to teach the older men in Jerusalem - not the other way round! (especially verses 2 & 6)
  
  7) Why does the Watchtower November 15, 2014, p. 30 say that the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation chapter 11 were J.F. Rutherford and his companions who were jailed and then released in 1919?
  Revelation 11:7 says that it is "the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss" which kills the 'two witnesses'. Since the wild beast is the United Nations, (according to J.W.'s) how could a non-existent U.N. fulfill a prophecy 26 years earlier?
  
  8) Why does the WTBTS say that birthdays are unscriptural: "The Bible never refers to a servant of God celebrating a birthday. This is not simply an oversight, for it does record two birthday celebrations by those not serving God. However, both of those events are presented in a bad light." (JW web site)
  Job's sons celebrated the anniversary of their births. (Job 1:4; Job 3:1; Jer. 20:14)
  Using the WTBTS's reasoning, 2 Kings 9:30 & Ezekiel 23:40 prove that eye-makeup for women is pagan and should be shunned like birthdays!
  
  9) Why does the WTBTS say that foreigners were not participants of the Law Covenant? (wt 98 2/1 p.19, par. 6)
  God Himself said that they were! (Deuteronomy 29:10-15)
  
  10) Why does the WTBTS teach that "God's laws" are based on post-codes? (wt 88 4/15 p. 28, pars. 13,14)
  If a disfellowshipped J.W. stays at home, his family life continues. If the individual moves across the street, his family must shun him and treat him as dead!
  
  11) Why does the WTBTS teach that "new scrolls" containing new teachings will be opened during Christ's 1000 years reign - based on Revelation 20:12? (w10 4/15 p. 11 par. 17)
  There are no "new" scrolls; the scrolls contain judgments, not teachings, and they are opened after Satan is destroyed - not during the 1000 year reign of Christ.
  
  12) Why does the WTBTS forbid the discussing of such teachings?

  (km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box - "Does “the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research...? No, it does not.")
  
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  Update to UK “Child Safeguarding Policy”

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a known poster on this site (anon) says:.

  i have just received a text from an elder i've known for decades in my circuit who has some sympathy for my feelings and who is aware of the arc, the uk charity commission, etc., etc.

  here it is verbatim, and my reply.

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  This says it all about the maggot-infested WTBTS's decomposing body, as well as the elders who worship it!
  

  Letter from Britain Branch to all bodies of elders.

  Using and Maintaining Kingdom Halls November 1, 2016 page 7:

  #38. When property damage occurs, quick action can go far in preventing further damage. Break-ins, thefts, incidents of arson, or other acts of vandalism should be promptly reported to the local authorities.

  But not the rapes of innocent children??????????? Do the authorities demand that acts of vandalism be reported?

  Every J.W. should be informed/confronted with this disgusting truth.
  
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  Fade Advice Please

  by Zeds Dead in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got reinstated in the last month and had my record cards sent to a new congregation.

  i went to a few meetings until i heard the cards had been sent and now i am looking to do a complete fade, no longer go at all.

  the new congregation does not know me well and further away from where i live so i am hoping they will give up trying to make contact quickly.. any advice on do's and dont's and what to expect?.

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  "Thank you for your concerns brothers, but there's nothing private & personal which I/we wish to discuss with anyone at the moment, but I/we appreciate your motives and concern. If things change, I/we will definitely call you."

  Conversation Stoppers:

  1) "We only want to come and give you encouragement." Simply repeat the

  response above!

  2) "But how can we help you if you won't talk to us?" = "I'm sure the Elders have

  private & personal situations which they couldn't discuss with others, I'm/we're no

  different!"

  3) Are you refusing to talk with us? = "No, I/we just don't want to discuss things

  right now. We'll call you."

  If they persist with their interrogation, just say 'thanks', and walk away! They can't

  punish you for ending a conversation - and they know they can't force you to talk to them!

  Repeat any/all of the above to anyone who tries to extract information from you,

  because the Elders will get someone you trust to try and get the information out of

  you!
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  Which bible translation do you think is best and most acurate?

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  for those that still care to read the bible of course.

  those that don't, please keep the snarky comments to yourselves :-).

  i am assuming nwt is not very popular?.

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  http://www.2001translation.com/ is as good/better than most.
  
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  2016 Watchtower Library CD ROM

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  available for download.

  just remember to reject the "automatic updates" from the org.. http://avoidjw.org/watchtower-library/.

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  Available for download. Just remember to reject the "automatic updates" from the org.
  

  http://avoidjw.org/watchtower-library/
  
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  What is the vow of poverty

  by Jafox in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was told by someone that in 2007 two members of the branch committee in greece were removed because they breached the vow of poverty.

  the matter was over a small amount, in the range of a few hundred euro.

  is there a copy of this vow available and how would this be applied here?

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  @ NOTJUSTYET - Look at No.6 in the "contract."

  
  
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  2016-12-29 BOE Re: Donations in Support of Kingdom Interests Worldwide

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  december 29, 2016 to all congregations re: donations in support of kingdom interests worldwide.

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  The Searcher

  "....with so many responding to the Kingdom message, the need for places of worship continues to grow."

  What's that noise? Oh, it's just the great crowd of J.W.'s who have had their K.H. sold and now have to spend more time and money travelling to another K.H., screaming with laughter!

  The org gets more delusional about the average publisher's gullibility with every passing JW broadcast/Watchtower.
  
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  SCOTLAND: Livingston Kingdom Hall

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think this deserves it's own thread, so as not to get mixed-up tl;dr - go to the bar charts at the end...picking up on jambon1's comments:.

  the one in the op - livingston, was a merge to the newly built assembly hall in the same area.

  i think three congs share that building now.. nice wee scoop up of the cash from the sale of livingston and whitburn.

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  According to what Scottish J.W.'s told me, every congregation in Scotland was "taxed" on a per publisher basis as a "contribution" to help pay for the construction of the Kingdom Hall Complex in Livingston.

  If I remember correctly the levy imposed was between £6-8 per publisher, but I can't verify that.

  I was initially under the impression that it was an actual Assembly Hall - but it's not.